Krishnee Bunwaree really racist?
What was the point in accusing the Muslims? Personally all that I understood by her comments is that she hates people who slaughter animals. Her being a Hindu has nothing to do though she said she was one.
Is she vegan? Does she adhere to the true Hindu principles laid down in the Vedas?
What is fasting for God? Fasting is not eating and remembering God. Scriptures tell it, not me!
Let's understand Krishnee's perspective:
In Bible
According to some interpretations of the Bible, raw veganism was the original diet of humankind in the form given to Adam and Eve by God in Genesis 1:29
In Qur'an (see below...please...)
6:38 There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of) communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered to their Lord in the end.
Wama min dabbatin fee al-ardiwala ta-irin yateeru bijanahayhi illaomamun amthalukum ma farratna feealkitabi min shay-in thumma ila rabbihim yuhsharoona.
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Avoid ye the seven obnoxious things {deadly sins}: polytheism; magic; the killing breathing beings! Which God has forbidden except for rightful reason. (Narrated by Abu Huraira. Sahih Mulim - Kitab-ul-Imam [Ref. No. 46]; Chapt. XXXIX, Vol.I; p. 52. Bukhari, 4:23. Also Awn [Ref. No. 32]; Hadith No. 2857)
In Vedas
In AtharvaVeda I-6-70 meat eating has been put on par with vices like drinking and gambling.
In 2012, vegetables are available in Mauritius easily. So, why do people continue eating meat? Hmm... Looks like the dajjal is in action?
USE YOUR LOGIC AND UNDERSTAND THESE VERSES IN TODAY'S WORLD.
P.S For those who want to debate on Islam:
Islam, a religion of compassion and moderation, acknowledges animals'
rights and emphasizes humans' responsibility for their welfare. A vegan
vegetarian diet is healthful, promotes mental and physical well-being,
and is cruelty-free. It does not include animal parts or products such
as eggs and dairy products. I urge every Moslem and nonMoslem to become a
vegan vegetarian."
Moneim A. Fadali, M.D., M. Ch., FACS, FRCS (C), FACC, FACCP
Cardiovascular and Thoracic Surgeon
Author, Animal Experimentation: A Harvest of Shame
Cardiovascular and Thoracic Surgeon
Author, Animal Experimentation: A Harvest of Shame
The quote you gave which is supposedly from the Quran but you gave as reference "Sahih Muslim - Kitab-ul-Imam [Ref. No. 46]". The other references you provided, are uncleared.
ReplyDeleteIn fact in Sahih Muslim, Kitab-ul-Imam [Ref. No. 46], this is mentioned:
"It is narrated on the authority of Mu'adh b. Jabal: I was riding behind the Prophet (may peace be upon him) and there was nothing between him and me but the rear part of the saddle, when he said: Mu'adh b.Jabal : To which I replied: At your back and call, and at your pleasure, Messenger of Allah!
He,(the Holy Prophet) said: Do you know what right has Allah upon His servants? I said: Allah and His Messenger know best. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Verily the right of Allah over His servants is that they should worship Him, not associating anything with Him.
He (the Holy Prophet) with Mu'adh behind him, moved along for a few minutes and said: Mu'adh b. Jabal: To which I replied: At your back and call, and at your pleasure, Messenger of Allah !
He (the Holy Prophet) said: Do you know what rights have servants upon Allah in case they do it (i.e. they worship Allah without associating anything with Him)? I (Mu'adh b. Jabal) replied: Allah and His Messenger know best. (Upon this) He (the Holy Prophet) remarked: That He would not torment them (with the fire of Hell)".
This is what is quoted from the reference you provided, and not what you quoted. So please do not propagate falsehood. Do not wrong people. I strongly request you to revise what you have written, specially the part regarding the Quran.
IS THAT WHAT IS CALLED "...KNOW THY TRUTH?"
C'mon!
IS THAT WHAT YOU CALLED "USE YOUR LOGIC AND UNDERSTAND THE VERSES IN TODAY'S WORLD?"
Come on, my friend!
Why did you pinpoint only the Qur'an? Be open minded.
DeleteMy friend,
DeleteI'm not pinpointed the Qur'an but I'm verifying whether what has been said about the Quran, is correct.
To my astonishment, the person who wrote this article is indulging people in error.
Neither the Qur'an nor the Authentic Sahih Muslim mentioned that.
So I must highlight that the above article is erroneous regarding the Islamic view.
I'm asking myself if you really know what is meant by being open-minded.
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ReplyDeleteIt's not me who quoted this. And to God's perspective I really think even animals are meant to contemplate...not killed. Else why would we be given capacity more than animals? Every religion preaches compassion my friend.
ReplyDeleteThere is not an animal (that lives) on earth or a being that flies on its wings but (forms
Deletepart of) communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the book and they (all)
shall be gathered to their Lord on the end. (The Holy Qur’an 6:32)
C'mon my friend!!!
ReplyDeletePlease, you too verify your information before you post, especially about the Qur'an.
In the Qur'an from Chapter 6, verse No:32, here it is:
''And the worldly life is not but amusement and diversion; but the home of the Hereafter is best for those who fear Allah , so will you not reason?''
And what have you posted?
Here is the link for (The Holy Qur’an 6:32):
http://quran.com/6/32
6:38 There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of) communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered to their Lord in the end.
DeleteWama min dabbatin fee al-ardiwala ta-irin yateeru bijanahayhi illaomamun amthalukum ma farratna feealkitabi min shay-in thumma ila rabbihim yuhsharoona.
LOOKS LIKE YOU WANT TO PROVE ME WRONG EVERYTIME. JUST A TYPO ERROR. HAHA. PEACE.
No, i'm not proving that you are wrong but I'm just verifying the reference you gave.
DeleteYeah, for Quran 6:38, that's true.
In fact to understand the verse 38, one should read from verse 37 to 41:
[37-41] These people ask, "Why has no Sign been sent down to this Prophet from his Lord?" Say, "Allah is able to send down a Sign, but most of these people do not understand the wisdom underlying it."26 As regards Signs, just have a look at any of the beasts that move upon the earth and at any of the birds that fly in the air: they too are species like you. We have left out nothing in pre-determining the courses of their lives: then ultimately they are all gathered to their Lord. But those, who deny Our Signs, are deaf and dumb, dwellings in many sorts of darkness;27 Allah lets go astray whom He wills and guides to the Right Way whom He pleases.28 Ask them to consider deeply and answer, "When some great misfortune befalls you, or the last hour approaches you, do you invoke any other than Allah? Answer, if you be in the right." At that time you invoke Allah alone: then, if He pleases, He averts the affliction from you, and on such occasions, you forget those whom you had set up as His partners.
:)So be it.
DeleteBtw, as you were talking about being open-minded, don't you think that accepting that everyone follows his religion, would be a proof of being open-minded?
ReplyDeleteI consider every religion to be the same, the path towards God. But what do you mean?
ReplyDeleteI've still not yet understand why you said that i'm pin-pointing the Qur'an.
DeleteIIn fact as I said, i saw the author of this article is indulging readers in error as what he/she quoted, doesn't tally to the reference he/she gave.
Ghyslaine Roc
ReplyDeleteEN FAIT, SELON FADYA NAZIRKHAN-MAHMOUD, IL NE S’AGISSAIT QUE D’UN BANAL DRAME D’AMOUR DE MADAME FAREENA EMAMDEE, UNE JEUNE ‘CHRÉTIENNE’ (KRISHNEE BUNWAREE) MARIÉE À UN ‘MUSULMAN’ DIVORCÉ, AMANOULLAH EMAMDEE, ET AYANT EMBRASSÉ L’ISLAM, ET DONT LE MARI S’EST TROUVÉ EN PRISON POUR ON NE SAIT QUEL CRIME, ET NON D’UNE ATTAQUE RACISTE CONTRE LES MUSULMANS OU L’ISLAM!
MAIS, N’EMPÊCHE QU’ELLE AVAIT UN TERRAIN RACISTE BIEN FERTILE GRÂCE À UNE CERTAINE PRESSE ET AUTRES AGENTS POUR QU’ELLE AIT PU OSER POUSSER SON AUDACE JUSQU’À FAIRE CES ATTAQUES CONTRE LES MUSULMANS OU L’ISLAM!
AMEN!
Ghyslaine ROC
Posted by BAFS
As said before, it's not against ISLAM. It's against some people. Well said Sir :)
DeleteShould have more knowledgeable persons in this country so our children become truly Mauritians...as one nation...as one people.
"Christian Yow Sangg - If her real name is KARISHMA why the hell the media called her KRISHNEE? Can you, please, provide your sources for that name? Thanks!"
ReplyDeleteGhyslaine ROC
Posted by BAFS
Why you focusing on islam and not other meat consuming religions???
ReplyDeleteanyway since you are talking about the vegetarianism in vedas, see this as well :
Turn the animal's feet northwards. Make its eyes go to the Sun, dismiss its breath to the wond, its life to the space, its hearing to the directions, its body to the earth. In this way the Hotar (priest) connets it with these world. Take of the entire skin without cutting it. Before opening the navel tear out the omentum. Stop its breathing within (by stopping its mouth). Thus the Hotar puts breath in the animals. Make of its breast a piece like an eagle, of its arms (two pieces like) two hatchets, of its forearms (two pieces like) two spikes, of its shoulders (two pieces like) two kashyapas (tortoises), its loins should be unbroken (entire); make of its thigs (two pieces like) two shields, of the two kneepans (two pieces like) two oleander leaves; take out its twenty-six ribs according to their order; preserve every limb of its in its integrity. Thus he benefits all its limbs. Dig a ditch in the earth to hide its excrements.
7. Present the evil spirits with the blood."
[Aitareya Brahman, Book 2, para 6 and 7]
"You will be astonished if I tell you that, according to the old ceremonials, he is not a good Hindu who does not eat beef. On certain occasions he must sacrifice a bull and eat it."
[The complete works of Swami Vivekananda, Volume 3, Pg 536]
In the same volume on page 174 he says,
"There was a time in this very India when, without eating beef, no Brahmin could remain a Brahmin;"
If you believe in this then you can believe in anything! These were not Brahmins nor Hindus. Just ignorant people. That's the message of Swami and Buddha.
Deleteohh ok.. you claim ''If you believe in this then you can believe in anything!'
Deletewhat about the one from the vedas then??? and I can give you several more vedic references like this!!!
The truth is that the Brahmins are controlling you all with your restricted mindset while they are merrily having their meat!
You comment is a joke. Vedas never preached meat eating. Brahmins do not consume meat, only sinners do, regardless of any religion.
ReplyDeleteIf you see someone eating meat and claims to be religious, brahmin or any caste/religion, just laugh at that person as I always do.
P.S Check this http://leverlepep.blogspot.com/2012/08/beware-of-some-pandits-and-spiritual.html
your only solution is to take it as a joke since your religious scriptures claim that meat eating is permissible. moreover they encourage this act.
DeleteI can give you whatever references you wish for..
and I bet you yourself have not read the bhagvad gita or vedas.. else you would have found that these books lay much emphasis on meat eating!
I already answered you. I can't keep fueling the same thing. It's upto you to have the right knowledge to understand. Peace.
ReplyDeleteAhem ahem...as I always love to say, let us see it this way. If all of us were to be non beef eaters, there would have been a lot and a lot and a lot of cattle. As a general rule, a bovine (cow or not) will eat approximately 2.5% of their body weight in dry matter per day. That is a lot of food if a cow weighs, let us say, 700kg. Will there have been enough grass for all these cows? Just like any other animals, they too, God Knows best, would have diversify their menu, let's say, adding vegetables, and maybe in the long run, fruits, and other commodities. Would there have been enough food for us humans?? we should not always forget that in that world, there is not only cows and humans. hehehe... And now, on the the hand, if every one were to be beef consumers, a lot and a lot and a lot of cattle would have been slaughtered almost everyday all over the world. Who would have plowed the land? Who will give us milk (humans are accustomed to cow's and goat's milk mainly) So, see the beauty and wisdom of the Most High... :D He created enough people to be beef eaters and enough people to be non-beef eaters or vegetarians, to keep the balance... I hope my message was passed though, and any case vegans or not, we should all diversify our meals... :D Peace be with u all... [notes i didn't quote from any books, because there would have refutation upon refutation and The Word of the Most High cannot be refuted... Things do not get corrupted, The Most High Let it get corrupted...and there is a reason for that... Shalom Aleichem e baraka...
ReplyDeleteIf you ate human body there would be a more balanced planet..population control..lol. But that does not mean you should eat humans. I welcome your thoughts though. Peace to you too.
DeleteAnd I didn't focus on beef but on any meat :) I don't think He created people just to eat meat else those that eat meat would be biologically different.
Perhaps you would be interested to read http://leverlepep.blogspot.com/2012/10/be-human-be-vegan.html
hello people,
ReplyDeletevegetarianism or barbaric-ism???
what ever your books state...has your god told you to kill an animal for consumption or ritual practice, if so I would really recommend some psychiatric treatment for you.... Lets have a sense of Humanity here with compassion...
Assault a human he will feel pain which will follow by a sad emotion, Assault any animal he also has the same reaction, how do we know this? when a dog, cat or cow suffers from pain they cry (a very distressing sound that would make any human or animal uncomfortable within). By this stage I hope you start understanding the theory. So why would anyone be barbaric enough to kill an animal for consumption. Pound for pound there is more protein in any sort of split peas and this is readily available world wide. There is a wide variety of alternatives to meat and even tastier. The truth is when you are articulate enough to understand this and practice in this manner your spiritual awakening will commence.
Very thoughtful comment thanks. It bears much truth that non-vegan people can't see or accept.
DeleteCan I point you to my blog..thank you
ReplyDeletehttp://mauritiushindutimes.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/navin-ramgoolam-is-not-protecting.html
A very decent debate indeed, i have liked most comments.
ReplyDeleteYes, pls maintained this cool attitude while debating so that we can be proud of today's new young generation.
This was a fight of intelligence and to my opinion you are all WINNERS :)